I just returned from Louisiana College in Alexandria, LA. Yesterday, I did a pre-conference seminar on Come Back Churches. Then, I preached to the annual evangelism conference last night and this morning. They are still meeting, but I headed home to be with my family.
It was good to meet some new people and visit with some old friends.
It was particularly nice to spend some time with Eric Geiger. Eric is, according to Thom Rainer, the brains behind the book Simple Church. He is also fun to be with so he has no sense of driving direction at all (long story, but he got us lost).
Two fun moments with Eric:
1. When we discovered we were preaching from the same text. (We still used the same text, but I altered my message a bit so he could drill in on his theme… which I am sure he did exceedingly well.)
2. When he told me his mom was watching over the Internet and “texted” him that she liked my sermon. (Hopefully she also liked Eric’s sermon.)
For the record: My mom has never watched my sermon on the Internet and she does not know how to text. And, I don't think she reads the blog, either.
Sigh.
Comments (6)
Ed,
One of the main reasons I came to the conference was to hear you. I was unable to attend the "Comeback Churches" seminar due to teaching a seminary class that afternoon. I appreciate your perspective in that you are in dialogue with emerging, traditional, nontraditional churches. You are a unique gift to Southern Baptists.
I would like your dialogue on a few items I noted while you were speaking, understanding your limited time.
1. You mentioned staying in the culture as part of our mission, and you spoke of your objection to taking children out of public schools, as some advocate. I do not disagree with you, but am struggling with the argument that our children need to be protected and are not necessary "missionaries" at their tender ages.
2. The video segments that you showed: Given the fact that an overwhelming percentage of the general public is open to Christianity and would come to church if someone invited them, is the bleak tone of the videos a bit demotivating to witnessing?
3. I noticed that your sermon outlines in both messages were simply a sentence broken into points. As you know, point 2 continued point 3 and 4 three and so on. I think you have solved a problem I ascertained in Andy Stanley's book on preaching: how to get in depth exposition of a text while keeping one idea before the congregration. As I ponder it, I plan to teach this to my class.
Two questions:
Where did you learn this technique? Is is uniquely yours? I don't recall seeing this done, and I have listened to, preached, and taught preaching for years.
Do you preach like this normally?
Again, I understand you can't write me a dissertation. Any direction you can point me on these three items is gratefully appreciated, and you WILL be helping to advance the kingdom!
Blessings,
David Holder
Sulphur, LA
Posted by David Holder | January 22, 2008 7:44 PM
Posted on January 22, 2008 19:44
Ed,
One of the main reasons I came to the conference was to hear you. I was unable to attend the "Comeback Churches" seminar due to teaching a seminary class that afternoon. I appreciate your perspective in that you are in dialogue with emerging, traditional, nontraditional churches. You are a unique gift to Southern Baptists.
I would like your dialogue on a few items I noted while you were speaking, understanding your limited time.
1. You mentioned staying in the culture as part of our mission, and you spoke of your objection to taking children out of public schools, as some advocate. I do not disagree with you, but am struggling with the argument that our children need to be protected and are not necessary "missionaries" at their tender ages.
2. The video segments that you showed: Given the fact that an overwhelming percentage of the general public is open to Christianity and would come to church if someone invited them, is the bleak tone of the videos a bit demotivating to witnessing?
3. I noticed that your sermon outlines in both messages were simply a sentence broken into points. As you know, point 2 continued point 3 and 4 three and so on. I think you have solved a problem I ascertained in Andy Stanley's book on preaching: how to get in depth exposition of a text while keeping one idea before the congregration. As I ponder it, I plan to teach this to my class.
Two questions:
Where did you learn this technique? Is is uniquely yours? I don't recall seeing this done, and I have listened to, preached, and taught preaching for years.
Do you preach like this normally?
Again, I understand you can't write me a dissertation. Any direction you can point me on these three items is gratefully appreciated, and you WILL be helping to advance the kingdom!
Blessings,
David Holder
Sulphur, LA
Posted by David Holder | January 22, 2008 7:44 PM
Posted on January 22, 2008 19:44
Dear Ed "Dan Rather" Stetzer, Wow Eric gets the blame for navigating to the hotel where you were staying and had already checked in. I'd really like to see the long version. You'd be a great main stream media reporter with that kinda spin. :) Really enjoyed the conference and meeting you as well. Take care of those girls. Billy
Posted by Billy Stevens | January 22, 2008 10:14 PM
Posted on January 22, 2008 22:14
David,
Good to hear from you and thanks for your kind words.
I think numbers 1 and 2 were actaully from other sessions... I did not mention public schools or show a video related to my messages.
Regarding your preaching question, I often use a construct like that. I tried to take my points and combine them into one thought. So, you get four point preaching but in a construct that is easy to remember.
I could not really do "one point preaching," so this is several point preaching with one major theme and construct holding it together.
Ed
Posted by Ed Stetzer | January 22, 2008 11:00 PM
Posted on January 22, 2008 23:00
The long version would certainly implicate me, so I like the short version better.
Besides, what do you know???... you were just driving! Eric was navigating. And, I was making funny comments! Grin.
It was good to meet you and thanks for the fun time!
Posted by Ed Stetzer | January 22, 2008 11:02 PM
Posted on January 22, 2008 23:02
Ed,
My bad! I think points 1 and 2 came from Eric's presentation. A thousand pardons!
BTW, I did blog a few quotes of yours and Eric's. I hope I got those correct!
Check out: www.drdave3.blogspot.com
Posted by David Holder | January 23, 2008 8:22 AM
Posted on January 23, 2008 08:22