January 2009 ArchivesThursday January 29, 2009 ~ 7 Comments
Bob Roberts and I (along with Nancy Ortberg and John Bishop) spoke in a joint session on Wednesday at the Innovation3 Gathering. I posted my notes yesterday. Bob joked on the stage that he would put his on my blog as well-- and sent along his notes to share here. Continue reading Bob Roberts "Catching Up with the Rest".
Posted on January 29, 2009 at 9:04 PM ~ 7 Comments Thursday January 29, 2009 ~ 12 Comments
I promised to post my notes. So, here they are - from my talk on "The Dangerous Church in 2020." Continue reading The Dangerous Church in 2010/2020 Notes.
Posted on January 29, 2009 at 7:00 AM ~ 12 Comments Tuesday January 27, 2009 ~ 29 Comments
I've written an article for the Exponential 09 website on how to plant a church without losing your soul. I've seen many leaders, including those who would be considered successful, and those whose work failed to produce lasting fruit, crash and burn while doing the very thing God called them to do. If you're planting, or thinking of planting, these words are for you. Continue reading Starting a Church without Losing Your Soul.
Posted on January 27, 2009 at 7:30 PM ~ 29 Comments Monday January 26, 2009 ~ 18 Comments
Sometimes I feel that I live in two worlds. First, there is the SBC world. It is big, powerful, and tribal. SBC world is so big that you can live your life in that world and never know there is a broader Christian community. In that world, almost every pastor would know who Junior Hill is, but I am guessing many of my non-SBC readers do not. Second, there is the broader Christian world. And, there are some movements in that world that impact the SBC world. More on that in a moment. This week is a mix for me and it prompted this blog post. Continue reading Baptists Need to Get Out More.
Posted on January 26, 2009 at 1:49 PM ~ 18 Comments Friday January 23, 2009 ~ 9 Comments
As many of you know I am on vacation, out of reach, and having a great time. But I want you all to have some food for thought as it relates to the need for strategic partnerships bringing the gospel to Europe and the upcoming Jetset Tour to Europe via the Upstream Collective. The following is piece written by Caleb Crider and Larry McCrary. Continue reading Why Europe?.
Posted on January 23, 2009 at 7:00 AM ~ 9 Comments Thursday January 22, 2009 ~ 1 Comments
Posted on January 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM ~ 1 Comments Wednesday January 21, 2009 ~ 8 Comments
Faces of starving children.
And those are important questions and there is great need. What most people don't know is one does not have to travel to Cairo or Tehran or Timbuktu to go where there is great need. We need MORE people to go to those contexts, but it is interesting that the statistics tell us about a great need in Europe. Continue reading Reaching the Most Unreached Through Europe.
Posted on January 21, 2009 at 5:29 AM ~ 8 Comments Tuesday January 20, 2009 ~ 22 Comments
Update: Thanks for the hundreds of you who wrote in! We are closing this offer. the first 75 will hear from Jason Hayes, my co-author, in the next few days.
The first 75 bloggers that email Jason and indicate they will do a review will get a free copy. (And, it does not even have to be a positive review!) This blog post will disappear soon, so let us know if you are interested immediately. Here's a quick look into what it's all about: Who are the young unchurched, and how can they be reached with the good news of Jesus Christ? Posted on January 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM ~ 22 Comments Monday January 19, 2009 ~ 6 Comments
Leadership Network commissioned me and a team I put together to research the state of church planting in North America. The findings are encouraging, while pointing out we still have a long way to go. The State of Church Planting in North America is a four-part report: Church Planting Overview, Who Starts New Churches, Improving the Health and Survivability of New Churches, and Funding New Churches. Below are some highlights from the Church Planting Overview, but you will want to download all of the reports. You can download the study in its entirety here via the American Society of Church Growth Journal. You can also download a podcast we did related to the study. Summary North American Christians are interested in church planting in a way not seen for many decades. In response, Leadership Network commissioned a research project that surveyed over 200 churchplanting churches, more than 100 denominational leaders from dozens of denominations, and over 45 church planting networks. Continue reading State of Church Planting.
Posted on January 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM ~ 6 Comments Monday January 19, 2009 ~ 0 Comments
The break turned out to last longer than I expected. I had planned to speak at the Nazarene National Pastors Conference but the meeting was canceled due to the economy. I am hoping we can reschedule because I was excited about my time with the pastors of the Church of the Nazarene. Continue reading Traveling the Next Two Weeks.
Posted on January 19, 2009 at 11:43 AM ~ 0 Comments Sunday January 18, 2009 ~ 6 Comments
Some bloggers have already responded to The Tennessan article on SBC decline that I mentioned yesterday, including: Michael Spencer (Internet Monk) Pat Hood (cited in the article) I will add more if I see them. Feel free to link yours or suggest others below. Posted on January 18, 2009 at 6:30 PM ~ 6 Comments Saturday January 17, 2009 ~ 24 Comments
The Tennessean has another article about the SBC today, their second major focus this month. It has some interesting interviews and analysis. The reporter, Bob Smietana, gathered quite an array of quotes and contacts so it is some good reading. I found the section on "stifling innovation" to be fascinating: The conservative resurgence also had an unintended consequence, said Roger Finke, a sociologist of religion at Penn State University. Finke said growing religious groups often share two characteristics. They have a set core of beliefs as a denomination but allow innovative practices in their local congregations. Here is what I wrote and spoke about the SBC a couple of years ago: The first step in organizational decline is that you lose your creative people, who decide to go on to more entrepreneurial settings. We have already lost most of this number. In fact, we have actively pushed many of them out by teaching and preaching against them in many SBC contexts and venues. The next step in decline is that the most competent among us begin to leave... There were some insightful stats as well: In 1978, just before the start of the resurgence, there was one baptism for every 36 members of the convention. By 2007, that ratio was one baptism to every 47 members. And this is particularly pointed: In 1971, there were 1,434,892 children ages 6 to 11 in Southern Baptist Sunday schools. By 2007, the last year for which statistics are available, that number had dropped by about 455,000 to 979,429. At the same time, the U.S. population grew by 46 percent. There are mentions of my friends Pat Hood, pastor of LifePoint Church and Rick White of The People's Church, two local contemporary SBC churches. Feel free to weigh in with your opinion... Posted on January 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM ~ 24 Comments Thursday January 15, 2009 ~ 14 Comments
Posted on January 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM ~ 14 Comments Thursday January 15, 2009 ~ 40 Comments
I continue to see movements gaining traction among Christians that do not seem to have many converts. In other words, they have recruits to their cause, but few converts to Christ. And, I am concerned. I am concerned that in the name of "fixing the Church" we are not proclaiming the Church's gospel. You need to go an read the whole article to see these excerpts in context at Catalystspace.com, but come back here and let's talk about it. Agree, diasgree? Share your thoughts in the comments. Posted on January 15, 2009 at 7:41 AM ~ 40 Comments Tuesday January 13, 2009 ~ 14 Comments
You okay? Maybe you should sit down. While many will continue to debate whether or not America ever was a "Christian nation," one thing is increasingly clear; most Americans today see the Christian faith as one spiritual option among many, and not the most desirable one at that. The Barna Group says, Continue reading Choosing My Religion.
Posted on January 13, 2009 at 8:00 AM ~ 14 Comments Friday January 9, 2009 ~ 3 Comments
This Sunday, I gave a "beginning of the year" message. I make it a practice to make my first message of the year about the nature of the gospel. We asked people to respond via a communication card at the end of the service (something the church does not usually do). I was encouraged to see 10 people indicate first time commitments to Christ, 40 want to get more information about connecting through membership, and hundreds committing to grow deeper in 2009. I promised the church I would post my notes here. So, they are below. Continue reading New Year, New Birth, New Life.
Posted on January 9, 2009 at 5:33 AM ~ 3 Comments Thursday January 8, 2009 ~ 3 Comments
From May 22-May 30, 2009 I will be hosting a vision trip with Darrin Patrick and some of my friends with the Upstream Collective to Rome, Italy and Marseille, France.
While each of our vision trips are unique we want to incorporate the following elements into each tour: Continue reading Jet Set Vision Trip: Church Planting in Europe.
Posted on January 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM ~ 3 Comments Thursday January 8, 2009 ~ 0 Comments
I just finished interviews with Fox News Radio and American Family Radio on our new stewardship research and realized I had not linked to it here. Sorry! I always post our research here. So, here is the link. Better late than never! Click here to see the graphics from the story. Posted on January 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM ~ 0 Comments Wednesday January 7, 2009 ~ 7 Comments
The "Missional Tribe" is a new collaboration of friends with a passion for all things missional. They have quite a list of contributors and are focusing on grass roots idea sharing around the missional turn. While in Chicago, Imbi Medri and Bill Kinnon (two of the co-founders of Missional Tribe) got David Fitch and me together to have a discussion about the missional church. David is a professor at Nothern Seminary, a co-pastor / church planter at Life on the Vine, and the author of The Great Giveaway. I was there teaching at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and we got together on a cold day in Chicago. Check out the Missional Tribe site here and enjoy the video below:
Posted on January 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM ~ 7 Comments Monday January 5, 2009 ~ 12 Comments
Here is my editorial in today's Tennessean, the Nashville paper. They asked me to write on the topic, "How to Stem the Decline of the SBC." There are three editorials and some reader's letters: one from the editors from the paper, one from me, and one from Robert Parham of the Baptist Center for Ethics and Ethics Daily. Finally, there are reader's opinions. The first editorial from The Tennessean editors mainly focused on the North American Mission Board and the Global Plan for Sharing, drawing from an earlier piece they wrote on the subject. The second was from Robert Parham. Robert is a good (and prolific) writer and would be one of the more vocal critics of the conservative shift of the SBC. He stays true to form here and I am sure he will provoke many responses. Obviously, we would disagree on some important issues. Most obvious in this context: I would be a supporter of the conservative shift while he (as you can tell from the article) was not. (We call it the "conservative resurgence" and Robert would refer to it as a "fundamentalist takeover.") Mine was third and I drew on an earlier blog post here and this post explains the trend. Here is mine in its entirety:
Interestingly, The Tennessean editors changed my title from "How to Stem the SBC Decline" to "SBC needs right kind of change." I prefer the original title much more than their new one and hope that change does not confuse readers with the multiple meanings assigned to the word "right." Being the guy who writes the conservative evangelical position in the secular paper is always interesting (particularly in 500 words!). But, I hope I held up a commitment to biblical theology while calling for change in the denomination. You decide. Posted on January 5, 2009 at 8:05 PM ~ 12 Comments Monday January 5, 2009 ~ 14 Comments
![]() Alan Hirsch and Michael Frost have written a new book, Rejesus: A Wild Messiah for a Missional Church, in which they call the church to "reconfigure itself," and "recalibrate its mission, around the example and teaching of the radical rabbi from Nazareth." Alan is a good friend and I am grateful he took the time to answer some questions here and come around the blog today to interact. Here is our interview: In simple terms, what problem(s) is ReJesus addressing? We are addressing what we call 'the subversion of Christianity'; the process by which we remove the defining presence and influence of Jesus for His church, our discipleship, and mission. reJesus is about exactly that...re-Jesus-ing the church! Putting Jesus back into the most basic equation and seeing what happens! In the past the church has sought and experienced "reformation" (the church's work to bring itself more in line with the expressed will and ways of God) and "revival" (God's work in leading his people to live more in line with his expressed will and ways). How does you call to "ReJesus" the church look similar to and/or different from what has happened throughout the history of the church? In many ways we believe that both the renewal, as well as revival, of the church and its mission are directly related to the more elemental task of reJesusing the church. Instead of simply reforming the church and its theology, we prefer to use the term 'refounding' the church: and we suggest that we must do this by recovering the definitive role that Jesus plays in shaping church, discipleship, and mission. The fact is Ed, that we so easily remove the influence and role of Jesus from our midst. We do find it hard to live with a Lord, humans tend to prefer our own ways and agendas to that of a demanding Lord/King. So in ReJesus, are you saying something new, or something old? Well, actually it is ancient...primal really. Whatever we can say about Christianity, it has everything to do with Christ. Jesus is the Founder and the Gospels are our most foundational stories. We are simply renovating ancient truths. H. Richard Niebuhr was right to note that "The great Christian revolutions came not by the discovery of something that was not known before. They happen when someone takes radically something that was always there." All of this will sound risky to many readers. Is it? How? Can you tell them why it's worth it? ![]() Oh too right. it is risky! Particularly if we insist on clinging to our middleclass penchant for safety and security, and consumerist addiction to comfort and convenience. I believe that the closer we get to Jesus, the more 'dangerous' he is to us. We prefer to keep him at arms length and engage him from the relative safety of objective theology. Why is it worth it? Because without Jesus we have no legitimacy, or in fact do we actually have Christianity, because Christianity minus Christ equals Religion. And hey! Who wants a religion? Is it worth it? It is our eternal destiny to be conformed to the image of Christ (Rom.8:29.) We cannot escape it. It is our joy, our salvation, our freedom. All else is just messing with the fringes of the faith. Why is it that keeping Christ at the center of our confessional identity can be so much easier than remaining Christocentric in our person, practices and piety? Because simple confession, like theology, as important as it is to our integrity, is not enough for us to truly 'know' God. I would argue that to truly know God we must supplement intellectual knowledge with that type of knowledge that can only come from engaging our hearts (our passion, feelings, our capacity for love) as well as our actions (obedience and action). We spend the good part of a chapter on this aspect of what we call "Hebraic epistemology". This is what it means to take the Shema seriously. And Jesus himself puts this at the center of a missional discipleship. "One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one" answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. 'The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (Mark 12:28-31 NIV) The mind is simply not enough to know and love God as we must. In the book you make a biblical argument for experiencing and living under the Lordship of a sent and sending God. A God that is immanent, close and accessible through Jesus Christ. Is there a place for seeing and worshipping the God who is also seen as transcendent, holy and "other?" Of course! God's transcendence is vital to a Christian understanding of God. But you are right in noticing that we have chosen to focus on the primacy and centrality of God Jesus as He is revealed in and through the Incarnation. We believe strongly that whatever ideas of God we might entertain; they must first be interpreted through the lens of Jesus--whatever that might entail. We call this fact that Jesus reveals God to us, 'The Christlike God" because we know through his life that God is indeed like Jesus--he says if you have seen him you have seen the Father...he and the Father are one!! Sure we know God through Scripture as well as nature...but the most distilled, and central, knowledge of God must be gleaned from the life, teaching, ministry of Jesus as revealed in Scripture. This is what makes us distinctly Christ-ian. This has massive implications for us, especially for our understanding of God, but it does not exhaust the extent of the revelation we find in Jesus, because not only does Jesus redefine our concept of God but also he shows us the perfect expression of humanity as God intended it. In other words, he models for us what a true human being should be like. Therefore, focusing our discipleship on Jesus forces us to take seriously the implications of following him, of becoming like him. It sets the agenda for our spirituality. It acknowledges that Jesus as our model, our teacher, and our guide is normative for the Christian life. He is the standard by which we measure ourselves, the quality of our discipleship, and therefore our spirituality You have done much to skewer cultural conditioned views of Jesus ("bearded lady Jesus" was my favorite). But, when I read the book I wanted to ask something that is both a question and a compliment-- the Jesus you described looked a lot like you, Alan-- a wandering teacher calling for change, a wild man with a powerful message, focused on the Kingdom of God, and with a Hebrew worldview. How culturally conditioned do you think your view of Jesus might be? None of us is free from trying to make Jesus like us on a good day! Actually that's what we are trying to 'skewer' it debunking the stereotypes of Jesus. Actually I am a strong believer in ongoing validity of the second commandment--we should not make any images of God. Every time we attempt to image God, be it mental or metal, we limit him and thereby seek to control him. We must always allow Jesus to be beyond any stereotype that we might wish to make of him. As you say, a lot of the book is iconoclastic. It's a bit of fun at our own expense really. But hey, thanks for the compliment! While everyone can benefit from reading this book, who needs to read it (for whom is it most critical)? We hope that the book is accessible to all thoughtful Christians. It is certainly geared towards a missional audience. But I do think it will appeal mostly to people engaged leadership and formal ministry. Recovering Jesus in thought, imagination, action of the church. Radicalizing the church by recovering the ethos, teachings, lifestyle of the Founder. And to do this they will have to take discipleship in the Way of Jesus seriously. I can't think of anything more foundational and important to the life and mission of the church. What other books, resources would you recommend to those who are convicted that such things need to change? You know, I love Soren Kierkegaard, but he is probably too complex for most people to read directly. A good introduction or two on his thinking is good medicine. For instance he saw it as his life's task Soren Kierkegaard, when he said, rather cheekily, "My mission is to introduce Christianity into Christendom." Dietrich Bonheoffer's work and thinking is timeless. I loved Stanley Hauerwas' commentary on Matthew (Brazos Theological Commentary) and Jacques Ellul's work in The Subversion of Christianity, and The Presence of the Kingdom, is really excellent. Also, Debs and I are working on a book on missional discipleship--published early '10. In many ways it will be a guide to outworking what it means to take Jesus seriously. And then of course there is your work on breaking the discipleship code. Alan will be around today to dialogue about the book. Feel free to post questions and comments below. Posted on January 5, 2009 at 5:02 AM ~ 14 Comments Sunday January 4, 2009 ~ 0 Comments
Here is the final installment, looking back to the start of the blog from October through December 2007. For the other sections, see parts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. October
November
December
Posted on January 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM ~ 0 Comments Saturday January 3, 2009 ~ 0 Comments
I received some nice comments about the blog "look back" (see parts 1, 2, 3, 4) and some encouragement to summarize the whole blog. So, here is another installment, looking back to the start of the blog from July through September 2007. July 2007
August 2007
September 2007
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And the last installment of the blog "look back" covers October through December. October
December
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The blog "look back" rolls ahead. Be sure to see part 1 and part 2. Below are some blog highlights from July through September 2008.
July was a busy month here at the blog. Some of the posts came from presentation, others from articles written in print publications, and others just started here at the blog.
September September generated much interest in the Emerging Church and megachurches (an odd combination, I know).
Posted on January 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM ~ 0 Comments Thursday January 1, 2009 ~ 0 Comments
Continued from part 1. Here are some blog highlights from April through June, 2008. April
And I forgot this from February:
Posted on January 1, 2009 at 7:34 PM ~ 0 Comments Thursday January 1, 2009 ~ 0 Comments
I thought I would start the new year with a look back at 2008. The blog was still young in January 2008 (having started 5 months before). Now, the blog seems a bit older as this post is the 438th. Here is a tour of what happened this year at the blog. I pulled out those posts that had significant traffic and I thought were most helpful. You can find the full list here in the blog archives. January January had some big downs and then ups, including:
February started with a trip to Europe and ended with a bit of fun. It was a heavy travel month and the posts reflected that.
March had some time off, some trips, and some thoughts, including:
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