Results tagged “pentecostal” from EdStetzer.comSunday August 17, 2008 ~ 36 Comments
Why did so many people flock to Lakeland from around the world to rally behind an evangelist who had serious credibility issues from the beginning? Grady cites C. Peter Wagner. If you have been reading the blog, you will remember two recent posts on apostles, here and here that mention Wagner. In both cases, I shared a bit about Wagner so the timing of my post and the timing of this incident prompted this blog entry. Well, Wagner recently brought what they call "apostolic covering" to Bentley. During a publicized gathering on June 23rd Wagner explained what this covering ceremony was all about (youtube). He said, "This is a ceremony celebrating the formal apostolic alignment of Todd Bentley." He explains that alignment is a kind of adjustment, or putting things in order. Bentley was asked if he recognized the apostolic authority of the apostles who were present, and when he did Wagner says that this will be a formal "commissioning" equivalent to offering the the right hand of fellowship as the apostles did to Paul in Jerusalem. Wagner continued by proclaiming, This commissioning represents a powerful spiritual transaction taking place in the invisible world. With this in mind, I take the apostolic authority that God has given me and I decree to Todd Bentley: In his article, Grady also points out that Bentley's theology should have been seriously investigated when Bentley connected with the "healing angel" of William Branham. (See the picture below for the "healing angel.") Yet, Bentley was never called on this bizarre connection. While teaching at Southern, I served a church in the same town where Branham founded a church. Branham was once a well known (perhaps the best known) Pentecostal healing evangelist... at least until he went astray. A little history may be helpful:
Yet, the movement and the meetings with Todd Benley went on... until last week when reality caught up. Now let me say, I work very hard to be charitable to Christians of different stripes-- much to the chagrin of those in my denomination who think we are the one true New Testament faith. And, this is not intended to be a post against one group (note, again, the title and you can visit my earlier posts on Pentecostal movements here and here.) Finally, I tend to think that movements should work out their theological discussions and I stay out of them-- rarely writing a post like this. Yet, when I see things like this, it is just hard not to ask: does anyone still have a Bible and some common sense? Let me add: I do not think this is a Pentecostal issue. That is why the title is, "Evangelical Gullibility." In other words, all kinds of Christians are forwarding emails about the FCC's phony plan to ban religious braoadcasting, signing up to have emails sent to the loved ones after the rapture, and watching Christian television for its theological depth. For that matter, I have just as many odd people come up to me with "something they discovered in the Bible that no one has ever noticed" after I speak at a Baptist, Wesleyan, of non-denominational meeting as I do when I speak at a Pentecostal one. Furthermore, many Pentecostals and Charismatics HAVE expressed concern about this movement-- including some when I visit the Assemblies of God office a couple of weeks ago. I just have to wonder with Grady if Christians really are just gullible. True revival is generally a messy affair. On the one hand abuses often accompany genuine works of God, and on the other hand much of what is called revival is nothing more than fanaticism. Courage is required to ask tough questions and do so with with grace and kindness, patience is necessary to wait and see if what is called revival bears lasting fruit, and theological discernment is critical for the church when it comes to awakenings and revival. Posted on August 17, 2008 at 6:12 PM ~ 36 Comments Tuesday February 26, 2008 ~ 8 Comments
This week is my Pentecostal week. I can only do one week a year without getting in trouble or at least getting empowered. Grin. When you tell Pentecostals that it can't be done, they go ahead and do it. It bugs me. I wish everyone had their passion... particuarly for church planting. Here is a graph of where Pentecostals are primarily concentrated in the U.S. Click here to blow up to full size: For example... Assemblies of God When Steve Pike, national director of church planting for the Assemblies of God asked me if I could spend a day with his national church planting team this week, I declined. I was already speaking too many places this week and could not travel anymore.
In preparation for the meeting, I received a new book by George Wood. George is the new President of the Assemblies of God (taking Thomas Trask's place). Accoring to his new book, he will lead the Assemblies to five key values: Passionate Proclamation Don't miss this-- one of the top five stated A.G. values is church planting! Nice. Pentecostals get things done. I thought about guessing where my denomination would put church planting on it "value" list... and then discretion won out. Grin.. But, we ALL need to elevate it to the top level of church and denominational life. Church of God
So, I will be at the Engage 21 Conference with my Church of God friends. (It will be especially good to catch up with Paul Walker, former pastor of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta and now a denominational big-wig with the Church of God.) Here is a Church of God fun fact for you: the denomination existed BEFORE the Azuza Street experience and was NOT a Pentecostal group (really, no one was Pentecostal before Azuza street or at least before Topeka). They were actually a holiness denomination and then became Pentecostal. You can read their history here (and, if you are so inclined, don't miss my fun facts about the Assemblies of God... I have been told they were passed around the AG leadership.) But, I like to "give a little extra" on the blog, so check out the Wikipedia history: Elder Richard Spurling (1810-1891), an ordained Baptist minister, rejected some of the views of the Baptists in his area as not being in accord with New Testament Christianity. In August of 1886, he and seven members from the Holly Springs and Pleasant Hill Missionary Baptist Churches in Monroe County, Tennessee and Cherokee County, North Carolina organized the "Christian Union". They agreed to free themselves from man-made creeds and unite upon the principles of the New Testament.... According to the aritcle, they started by rejecting "some of the views of the Baptists." Sigh. By the way, uberblogger Travis Johnson is part of the Church of God and will be at the conference. I am not a Pentecostal, but I do appreciate their passion for planting and their global missions emphasis. I look forward to a good week with my Pentecostal brothers and sisters in Christ. In case you are wondering, here are the growth rates by "types" of Christians according to a site that gathers and summarizes such research: -Pentecostals: 8.1% Evangelicals could learn something about passion for planting from Pentecostals. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So, in case you want to track me this week: Monday, Cedarville University Evangelism Conference This marks the last week of too many trips in one week. My new plan: one conference per week. Really. I promise. Really. Posted on February 26, 2008 at 1:38 PM ~ 8 Comments |






Well, Pentecostals get things done... so he brought his team to Nashville. So, if you need me today (Wednesday), I will be unavailable and talking church planting with Pentecostals in Nashville with a friend of mine, 
Well, as I said, Pentecostals get things done. So, the Church of God is sending a plane to fetch me. I wish I could say it was a fancy plane, but it has propellers and not jets... and my wife is none too happy that I am flying on a plane with propellers.



















